The turn of the century recipe for Apple Pie from Sibley’s Department Store, and holiday traditions at Midtown.
I have been collecting recipes for quite a while, and usually, the backstory is just as good as the prepared dish. I have decided I want to try to find and make as many Upstate New York signature recipes as I could in 2017 (call this a head start). In fact, I already have a few here and I have been recategorizing these recipes so they are easier to find.
I love the idea of combining nostalgia, local history, and really good food, and it wasn’t long before I had a list of dishes from long-gone eateries and hard to find local favorites I want to make. Maybe it is because of the holidays, but baked goodies from Sibley’s bakery was at the top of my list.
For anybody who is unfamiliar with the Sibley’s Department store, here is a condensed history of the rise and fall of one the most prestigious department stores in the area. Sibley’s was founded in 1868 right here in Rochester and has been credited with ushering in a whole new kind of shopping experience for consumers, encouraging customers to linger, admire carefully arranged displays, and socialize over in-store baked goods.
Sibley’s is now gone. The department store was acquired by May Department Stores in the Mid-Nineteen Eighties, and stores that operated under the Sibley’s name were merged into May Company’s Kaufmann’s name in 1990. Honestly, my memory of Sibley’s has more to do with Midtown Plaza (that was across the street from Sibley’s) Christmas traditions and activities than actually shopping in the store.
During the holiday season, Midtown Plaza transformed into a magical place. There was a mini monorail that the kids could ride, a massive Christmas tree, and, of course, Santa. Combined with the permanently installed Clock of Nations (currently homed in the Rochester International Airport) which to me always seemed more a member of the holiday attractions, the main hall of the mall was a holiday wonderland for kids of all ages.
But my parent’s and their generation have different memories of Sibley’s during the holidays. While my generation had the monorail at Midtown, an older generation had Toyland at Sibley’s. The department store had a small toy section through most of the year, but during the holidays, on the 4th-floor kids would travel through a tunnel of elaborate museum-like displays before arriving to see Santa.
I spent some time searching for recipes from Sibley’s Bakery without much luck. I did find many requests for the cut-out cookies in forums, but no one seemed to have that recipe. I did come across this image of an Apple Pie recipe in the Things I Remember About Rochester Facebook Group. I contacted the original poster who graciously allowed me the use of her image, and got to work trying out this pie recipe.
I was pretty committed to following this recipe as written, and I did follow this recipe to the letter for authenticity. The instructions were vague (most old recipes are), but the pie dough recipe was one of the most difficult I have ever made. The flour, fat liquid measurement seemed to be way off, and there really was barely enough dough for a 9-inch pie. If you are keen on recreating a Sibley’s Apple Pie in your own kitchen, I would strongly encourage you to use your favorite pie dough recipe, while I did eventually get the recipe to work, the results were simply “ok”, and in hindsight not worth the effort and frustration.
What did work? The filling. This filling is pure unadulterated apple pie, your grandmother would be proud of this filling. The cinnamon to apple ratio seemed perfect, and the filling thickened up beautifully. I will definitely be revisiting this recipe for the filling.
Sibley’s Department Store Bakery Apple Pie
- 2 1/2 cups all-purpose unbleached flour
- 14 tsp 8 oz. regular shortening
- 1/2 tsp salt
- 1 tbsp confectioner's sugar
- 5-6 tbsp milk
- 6-8 tart apples such as granny smith or Rome
- 1/2 cup granulated sugar
- 1 tsp cinnamon
- 1/4 tsp salt
- 1 tbsp flour
- 1 tbsp lemon juice
- 2 tbsp melted butter
- Sift flour, salt, and sugar. Break down shortening with fork into lumps 1/4-1/2 inch long. Add milk; mix (don't over mix)
- Divide the dough into 2 parts.
- Preheat the oven to 400 degrees F.
- Sift together sugar, cinnamon, salt, and flour. Add lemon juice
- Peel, core and slice the apples, and mix into the sugar/lemon juice mixture.
- Divide the previously made pie dough. You will need roughly 2/3s of the dough to line the bottom of the pie tin, and 1/3 for the top crust.
- Line the bottom of a 9-inch pie tin with about 2/3s of the pie dough. Fill with apple mixture and top with remaining dough.
- Brush heavy cream on the top crust, then punch holes in the top of the pie to vent.
- Bake in a 400-450 degree F. oven for 30-40 minutes.
I followed this recipe to the letter for authenticity, and the instructions were vague (most old recipes are), but the pie dough recipe was one of the most difficult I have ever made. The flour, fat liquid measurement seemed to be way off, and there really was barely enough dough for a 9-inch pie. While the pie dough disappoints, the filling is everything. This is the perfect example of an old-fashioned apple pie filling. This is a filling for pie purists, it tastes like apples, with a hint of spice and butter. I strongly encourage you to try the filling in your favorite pie crust recipe. I have included the pie dough recipe here, but I can't in good conscience say it is worth the effort.
Saturday 19th of December 2020
Anyone have the Recipe for the Sibleys Strawberry Pie?
Sunday 15th of November 2020
Looking for the Sibley's cutout recipe?
Saturday 7th of December 2019
I also remember McCurdy's bakery at midtown plaza. I wish I had the recipe for their large chocolate chip cookies. They were amazing!
McCurdy’s Department Store Apple Spice Cake
Saturday 3rd of November 2018
[…] the corner of Main and Elm streets in Rochester, directly across the street and in competition with Sibley’s. McCurdy’s boasted 6 floors to shop, and had 2 places to dine; The Garden Room Restaurant, […]
Saturday 15th of September 2018
My sister and I are looking for Sibley’s Merry Widow Cake. It had several layers. Crushed nuts on the sides and tiny rosebuds around the top edge. I became our birthday tradition. Thanks, Anne Bisceglia
Saturday 22nd of September 2018
Ohh that sounds like it was a pretty cake! I haven't run across it yet, but I will keep my eyes peeled!